Subsequent transfer of depreciation run after change in profit center assignments

10/20/23

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Hello,
I currently have a problem with the subsequent transfer of depreciation to Profit Center Accounting. My customer has rebuilt the profit center structure and now wants to transfer the depreciation and existing FI postings. Unfortunately, the problem with depreciation is that not all postings have a profit center in the case of parallel valuations. These posting lines are now not transferred. The reason for this is a missing profit center in the assigned cost center, which has now been corrected with the changeover.
What is the possibility to transfer the values of the asset accounting / depreciation to the profit center accounting, ideally with the new profit centers. A mapping between new and old exists.
Thanks a lot
Rüdiger

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Plucinski 10/20/23, 3:14 PM
Hello
It seems to be important first of all to check the master data via AS03 of the individual assets.
Are the account assignment objects correctly maintained in the asset master records ?!
Is monthly depreciation on cost centers ???
Totally important is still the ACSET !!!
http://scn.sap.com/thread/1698734
This takes care of how the inheritance of the AFA into CO takes place.
With kind regards
Jens Plucinski
www.jensplucinski.de
Consultant Business Economist SAP FI
RSteinberg (Author)10/20/23, 3:14 PM
Hello,
all assets are maintained with the cost center for the first depreciation area is also posted correctly, ACSET is also maintained accordingly. In the parallel valuation area, however, exactly the problem arises that until recently some cost centers did not have a profit center (is now corrected and mandatory field there). Due to this error, however, it unfortunately came to the fact that assets where a cost center without profit center was stored, the profit center was not filled in the accounting document item. We are talking about the past here. Now exactly these depreciation lines should be transferred to EC-PCA with the correct profit center. Unfortunately I can't get the lines into the exit PCA0001 with the component EXIT_RCOPCA32_001, so they are not transferred. I would very much like to customize the BSEG to maintain the profit center there
Now the question, can I re-run the past depreciation runs for profit center account only, or re-draw them cleanly with all depreciation there. FI periods may not be opened again.
Thanks a lot
Rüdiger
Martin Munzel 10/20/23, 3:14 PM
Hello Rüdiger,
if the depreciation is posted to the correct cost centers and the cost centers now all have a correct profit center, then you can repost the depreciation entries using transaction 1KE8.
To do this, you have to enter the corresponding FI documents in the "Document number" field. Then uncheck the "Pre-check" and check the "Reversal". The possibly existing PCA documents will then be reversed and new documents will be created. The assignment of the cost center to the profit center will be redetermined at runtime.
Many greetings,
Martin
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Martin Munzel
SAP consultant, trainer, author http://www.martin-munzel.com
RSteinberg (Author)10/20/23, 3:14 PM
Hello Martin,
Thanks for your hint, this worked as far as for the imputed valuation area (only these accounts are available in CO). Unfortunately, this transfer does not work for the parallel approach, because this is not used in cost accounting. Therefore, no cost center is stored in the rows for the transfer and the profit center cannot be derived.
Many thanks also again to Mr. Plucinski. I had checked the transaction ACSET and for the imputed area (unfortunately the only one in CO) this is also drawn correctly. I also get this cleanly into the profit center invoice according to Martin's procedure. Unfortunately, the IFRS valuation area (paraller approach) is not available in cost accounting. However, this data should now be displayed in Profit Center Accounting if possible. The existing FI documents are summarized to profit centers, but there is also a line with the same account, in which no profit center is stored. The sum of this row is exactly equal to the depreciation value posted to the cost centers that did not have a profit center before. Dummy was unfortunately not used here (which I also do not fully understand, but that is another topic). Now my question was, how do I get this row without profit center ideally with the correct profit center transferred. In 1KE8 I only get the rows that had a profit center in the old FI document. The incorrect ones, however, unfortunately do not have one.
Now, from my point of view, there are only three possibilities left:
- live with for the stub year
- create a dummy posting against a kind of migration account
- repeat the depreciation run.
However, I have almost ruled out the latter, since I have not yet found a way to repeat this for 6 periods, so that the values arrive cleanly in the PCA. Maybe I've been looking for the wrong thing here and it does work?
What other ideas do you have?
Thanks a lot
Rüdiger
Plucinski 10/20/23, 3:14 PM
Hello Rüdiger
another approach/idea
http://fico-forum.de/artikle/1009C_3.php
By default, only the leading valuation can be posted to CO, an enhancement of the FI-AA and CO tables to include the ledger group is not planned as far as we know at the moment.

You write
In the case of depreciation, there is unfortunately the problem that not all postings have a profit center in the case of parallel valuations. These posting lines are now not transferred.
This means for me, as you describe it in your example, that therefore no value flows can flow from the non leading ledger into CO
. I don't know if this solves your problem, but it was important to me to bring this approach into the race again.

With kind regards
Jens Plucinski
www.jensplucinski.de
Consultant Business Economist SAP FI
Last edited on 25.08.14 17:52
Plucinski 10/20/23, 3:14 PM
If you don't have new GL in use, you can also find information here
http://www.fico-forum.de/fico_forum/thre...&thread=228
With kind regards
Jens Plucinski
www.jensplucinski.de
Consultant Business Economist SAP FI