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  human1970 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Sebastian,
  Which SAP release do you work with and which status of the packages do you have ?
  Greetings
  Marc

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  acidwr (Author)10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  ECC 6.0
  SAP BASIS 701
  FINBASE 600 PL 022
  Thanks and greetings

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  human1970 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello,
  in EhP 5 or 6 you will find a Reorg Manager for Profit Center, in which you can plan and execute the adjustment of e.g..: Cost center master data can plan and execute. If you don't have this yet, you can change the SAP standard error message (when you change the profit center in the cost centers) to a warning message. The Probelmatik, the historical values actual and all plan values entered until then (regardless of PLanungszeitraum) of course remain on the "old" profit center.
  Many greetings
  Marc

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  Martin Munzel 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  If you are using the classic general ledger with EC-PCA, you can update the old documents with transaction 1KE8. This will reverse the old profit center document for FI documents, redetermine the profit center and create a new document.
  Many greetings,
  Martin
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  Martin Munzel
  SAP consultant, trainer, author http://www.martin-munzel.com

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  acidwr (Author)10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello,
  first of all, thanks for the tips.
  @Marc:
  So if I set to warning we have inconsistencies in the FI if necessary, right?
  @Martin:
  But 1KE8 only updates the documents, right?
  Planned values stay as they are...
  Do you have any other idea how the workaround should look like after "change to warning"?
  1. change PC to cost center
  2. ...
  3. ...
  Thanks
  Sebastian

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  human1970 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Sebastian,
  Inconsistencies, in that the historical values remain in actual and all plan values remain on the "old" profit center, I would rather call it a skew.
  We always had the following procedure as a workaround:
  1. adjust the master data (cost centers, orders, WBS, etc.) on the key date (01.xx.yyy).
  2. correction of the plan data (creation of distribution cycle and distribution from "old" to "new" for the period to be adjusted)
  3. if necessary correction of actual values by profit center documents (TC 9KE0)
  I hope I have not forgotten anything, it has been a while.
  For questions please contact me
  Many greetings
  Marc

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  Martin Munzel 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Sebastian,
  the 1KE8 only updates FI documents. For planning there is the transaction 1KE0.
  The procedure would be as follows:
  1. change PC to cost center
  2. call line item report for the affected cost center and find all document numbers; here please note that for 1KE8 you need the FI document numbers. For CO-only documents, you need the CO document number and then update it with the 1KEA.
  3. update the FI documents with 1KE8
  4. update the CO-documents with 1KEA
  5. if necessary, update the plan values with 1KE0.
  If your data volume is not excessive, you can also skip step 2 and update all posted documents of the fiscal year in steps 3 and 4. Unfortunately, you cannot select by cost center with 1KE8.
  Many greetings,
  Martin
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  Martin Munzel
  SAP consultant, trainer, author http://www.martin-munzel.com

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  acidwr (Author)10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Once again, thank you very much.
  I will check this out with Controlling and report back to you
  if the procedure works for our COler.
  Greetings
  Sebastian

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  acidwr (Author)10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  @Martin Munzel:
  What kind of problem do we have if the new general ledger would be active?
  How do we have to adjust the workaround for that?
  Thanks and greetings
  Sebastian

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  Martin Munzel 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Sebastian,
  In the new general ledger, you are not allowed to make such a subsequent change to the documents, as you would be changing general ledger documents that are relevant for external reporting. One of the advantages of the classic PCA is that you work in a separate ledger and are therefore somewhat autonomous from the general ledger.
  Greetings, Martin
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  Martin Munzel
  SAP consultant, trainer, author http://www.martin-munzel.com
  

  Last edited on 25.09.13 15:40

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  acidwr (Author)10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Martin,
  if I understand you correctly, we have no choice but to:
  1. lock cost center at key date X
  2. create new cost center on key date X+1 with new profit center and new hierarchy area
  3. if necessary, adjust planning manually
  Do you or anyone else have any helpful comments on this
  My controller was already gasping for breath when I showed him this way....
  Thanks and greetings
  Sebastian

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  Martin Munzel 10/23/23, 6:41 PM

  Hello Sebastian,
  You can also leave the cost center and change the profit center. No historical documents will be adjusted to the new profit center.
  A reporting of the historical values with the new profit center is then only possible in BW or via an ABAP report.
  Greetings,
  Martin
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  Martin Munzel
  SAP consultant, trainer, author http://www.martin-munzel.com

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